Oh Canada

[K_Dubb]

Somebody should probably tell them. They have been video taping to dox people, going to neighbourhoods dropping leaflets accusing people of being Nazis, burning a pastors bus and trying to burn his church while there was a preschool session in the basement, smashing windows of cars belonging to people they disagree with. In short, I think that you should arrive in the next few weeks and host a training session to inform them that they are breaking protocol.

Yes, burning children is not in the antifa handbook, someone needs to set them straight.  You must be talking about this guy?

https://www.rebelnews.com/school_bus_catches_fire_calgary_building_pastor_artur_pawlowski_church

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/may/arsonists-set-canadian-pastors-property-on-fire-after-arrest-over-covid-violations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Pawlowski

[Master Trollda]

Yes, burning children is not in the antifa handbook, someone needs to set them straight.  You must be talking about this guy?

https://www.rebelnews.com/school_bus_catches_fire_calgary_building_pastor_artur_pawlowski_church

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/may/arsonists-set-canadian-pastors-property-on-fire-after-arrest-over-covid-violations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Pawlowski

How can you be a Christian AND support violent, communist thugs?!

[WOTR]

Yes, burning children is not in the antifa handbook, someone needs to set them straight.  You must be talking about this guy?

https://www.rebelnews.com/school_bus_catches_fire_calgary_building_pastor_artur_pawlowski_church

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/may/arsonists-set-canadian-pastors-property-on-fire-after-arrest-over-covid-violations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Pawlowski

Yup. Well known guy (for many reasons.) I believe his personal house was also fire bombed in the last year and his van vandalized. I know he has installed security cameras now- but I don't know if they will help.

*Yes, he is a pretty abrasive person. But he is also pretty interesting.

[K_Dubb]

How can you be a Christian AND support violent, communist thugs?!

Same way WOTR can be all look at the bouncy castles and ignore the part where convoy organizers published a memo of understanding where they were going to dissolve the commons and set up their own government with the help of the senate.  Activist politics is like making Mounds out of Almond Joys, you just have to ignore the nuts.

[Master Trollda]

Same way WOTR can be all look at the bouncy castles and ignore the part where convoy organizers published a memo of understanding where they were going to dissolve the commons and set up their own government with the help of the senate.  Activist politics is like making Mounds out of Almond Joys, you just have to ignore the nuts.

OK, show me where they said that?

Here’s where he makes some tenuous connection to some lone fringe kook who claims affiliation.

[Master Trollda]

Same way WOTR can be all look at the bouncy castles and ignore the part where convoy organizers published a memo of understanding where they were going to dissolve the commons and set up their own government with the help of the senate.  Activist politics is like making Mounds out of Almond Joys, you just have to ignore the nuts.

Anyway, all I’m saying is that you know that these two ideologies are incompatible so either you’re a Christian fronting as Antifa or you’re Antifa fronting as a Christian. Which is it and for what reason?

[K_Dubb]

OK, show me where they said that?

Here’s where he makes some tenuous connection to some lone fringe kook who claims affiliation.

You can read the Memo of Understanding here https://www.netnewsledger.com/2022/02/05/the-canada-unity-memorandum-of-understanding/  James Bauder was arrested in Ottawa with his wife.

Two organizers of the Ottawa “Freedom Convoy” demonstration, who have been promoting anti-vaccine mandate rallies across western Canada since leaving town, made their first appearance in an Ottawa court Tuesday.

James and Sandra Bauder of Calgary were arrested in Ottawa on Feb. 20 as police moved in to clear out the protesters who had blockaded downtown streets for three weeks.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/convoy-protest-organizers-james-and-sandra-bauder-appear-in-ottawa-court

[K_Dubb]

Anyway, all I’m saying is that you know that these two ideologies are incompatible so either you’re a Christian fronting as Antifa or you’re Antifa fronting as a Christian. Which is it and for what reason?

I explained this before.  Antifa is not ideological, it is just opposed to fascism.  In the Weimar era in which it was founded, the Three Arrows were against kings, Nazis, and communists. 

[Master Trollda]

You can read the Memo of Understanding here https://www.netnewsledger.com/2022/02/05/the-canada-unity-memorandum-of-understanding/  James Bauder was arrested in Ottawa with his wife.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/convoy-protest-organizers-james-and-sandra-bauder-appear-in-ottawa-court

Canada Unity, one of the groups behind the organization of the Freedom Convoy is advocating a peaceful overthrow of the Trudeau government

First off, they weren’t the main organizers, which were Pat King and Tamara Lich, I think. Second they advocate the peaceful overthrow of the dictatorial Trudeau government, not a violent overthrow as you’re trying (for some reason) to portray it. .

[Master Trollda]

I explained this before.  Antifa is not ideological, it is just opposed to fascism.  In the Weimar era in which it was founded, the Three Arrows were against kings, Nazis, and communists. 

But they are communists who try to force their ideology onto people through violence and intimidation. They’re certainly not trying to win people over with well reasoned arguments. How could any Christian support them?!

[K_Dubb]

First off, they weren’t the main organizers, which were Pat King and Tamara Lich, I think. Second they advocate the peaceful overthrow of the dictatorial Trudeau government, not a violent overthrow as you’re trying (for some reason) to portray it. .

See, you are learning to ignore the nuts.

[Master Trollda]

See, you are learning to ignore the nuts.

No, you’re just doing your usual establishment guilt through association smear and it’s really pretty old and pretty lame and most see right through it.

[K_Dubb]

But they are communists who try to force their ideology onto people through violence and intimidation. How could any Christian support them?!

You just call everything you don't like communist.  Do you hear antifa calling for the abolition of private property and for the workers to seize the means of production?  Not communist.

[Master Trollda]

You just call everything you don't like communist.  Do you hear antifa calling for the abolition of private property and for the workers to seize the means of production?  Not communist.

It’s true I don’t like communism for good reasons but I don’t label everything I don’t like communis; and yes, I have heard them talking that talk, actually. One of the really clear signs of both facsists and communists is the need to intimidate and control people with violence and the threat of violence rather than attempting to win people over with rational debate. The reason being that they can’t win people over with rational debate and they know it. No, they have to use emotional manipulation and cultural inflitration and subversion to win people over. They actively try to get people to shut off their rational minds and just respond emotionally. Totes communist.

[K_Dubb]

No, you’re just doing your usual establishment guilt through association smear and it’s really pretty old and pretty lame and most see right through it.

No, I am demonstrating that, in activist politics, you have to ignore the nuts it attracts.  I actually liked the Ottawa protest, I thought it was fun, pretty well organized and effective and made Trudeau look like an impotent dope.  I am glad they did it there because if the convoy movement was based in the US you'd just get a bunch of fat hick beardos waving guns around.