Oh Canada

[K_Dubb]

I believe it was misinterpreted. It was likely just activities in celebration of gay pride month.

That is possible, but the mention of a vegetable in this context suggests something to do with English heritage.

[K_Dubb]

So we are in agreement that in a strange way it is too bad that restrictions lifted (I believe most likely in response to what they were seeing in Ottawa and the boarders. Canadians if full rebellion mode may not have been something they were planning on...)

However, your idea of "offer them their jobs back" is probably not going to work. As somebody who nearly lost his job to mandates, I can tell you that I let my manager know that while I appreciated the offer that if I were fired I would be rehired as soon as mandates lifted- that I would not be back. I believe that is an attitude shared my many.

The other problem is that the good and virtuous left is unlikely going to want to start at the bottom of a ferry service for a career. So while it is seen as "worth it" to teach those dirty Trumpkins a lesson- it is shooting society in the foot. If you are at 85% vax rate you have to consider that those who are now past working age are likely 95% vaxed. That means that there are likely 20%+ of the population excluded from the jobs that could make the world run smoother and with more ferries.

I know of several nurses who upon being fired actually moved to the US (I believe most of them went to South Dakota.) I know a number who were working into their retirement who just quit. Our paramedic service is at the breaking point- From early May... "In a tweet on Monday, the HSAA reported that 40 emergency calls in Calgary were waiting for an ambulance to be dispatched on May 3, which prompted union staff to issue a “deep red alert” for the area... Deep red alerts were unheard of until now."

When you fire around 6 - 8 % of your paramedics (and a number resign or retire prior to being fired to work elsewhere or enjoy life) you are going to have problems. These were the "hero's" only 6 months earlier putting with people applauding them. And then they are fired. I would say they lost 12-15% of their most senior staff. And that likely caused others to go on stress leave.

So, I actually laugh when I hear that our health care system is almost broken to the point of people dying in the streets. How fitting that after laughing at the "dirty unvaxxed" it is that attitude that contributes to destroying a once (somewhat functional) health system. I know that ferries are not hospitals. But the same mechanisms are at work. And I doubt that more than a dozen people would return even if offered their old jobs back.

*Oh, did I mention that the government made the generous offer to Alberta health workers that they could return as of March 8? So, 5 days after making the news they offered people their jobs back. I would be shocked if a dozen people returned after being turfed a few months earlier.

I think by last Christmas even our health director had to admit that people who were doing everything right -- masked, vaxxed, not doing discretionary travel, i. e. the 85% of good people -- were getting sick, so there was a sea change in public opinion, especially as more and more people got it and, astonishingly, survived.  It is all very well and good to lord it over the trumpkins but when there isn't a clear case that restrictions are doing anything, most people would prefer to live without them.  That would have been the time to strike.

I am sure the governor had polling or focus groups to allow him to measure public opinion and move quickly once support fell away.  He is a politician and his first duty is to do what people want.  Hell, he has been trying to reopen the state for a year, since he took his mask off and raised a flag on the Space Needle and told everybody it was open last May. 

[K_Dubb]

No butter tart- no Tim Hortons coffee. When I first stopped, she asked me in out of the rain to stand under the tent. I declined as it seemed unfair to take advantage of their shelter when I knew I was not going to be signing up as a NDP supporter- and it felt better to be rained on during the conversation. Kind of kept me in the right frame of mind.

No- I did not raise my voice. No- there were no swears. More likely just visible disappointment on my part realizing that a woman running for office has not so much as glanced at any statistic to make up her own mind. Still claiming that vaccinations stop the spread? Wow... Just wow.

And also realizing that I was surprisingly good at thinking on my feet for that conversation. That actually made me really happy- even more than a buttertart or a beavertail.

It has been a feature of this whole covid mess that, despite all the nuttery you have to wade through, right-wing people are generally better informed when it comes to the science and the statistics.  I remember people arguing that coronavirus mutations make a vaccine temporary back on old bellgab, long before one was even announced.  And let us not forget the brave Provincetown Bears who stress-tested the vaccine last Fourth of July and showed that breakthrough infections are possible if you work really hard to overcome social distancing.

[Master Trollda]

especially as more and more people got it and, astonishingly, survived. 

LOL! Spin, SPIN, SPIN!!!

[Brother OJ]

I'm still not "allowed" to escort my elderly father into the hospital without a v------ cer------. good thing for pho--s--p and the template i found on 4----

[WOTR]

I'm still not "allowed" to escort my elderly father into the hospital without a v------ cer------. good thing for pho--s--p and the template i found on 4----

I'm glad you found that. Some in my family have "fake" paper certificates. I avoided that because I have a real issue with presenting my papers. That said, I would "doctor" up some paperwork if it meant escorting my parents. The nerve of the fuckers banning his family if the don't present proof is pretty amazing.

[WOTR]

After my conversation with the NDP candidate I decided to look at a few of our provincial stats. Most are not surprising. I mean 35% of the population is triple jabbed, and 56% of the people in hospital are triple jabbed. (10% are unvaxxed and 20% of hospitalizations are unjabbed right now.) Both populations are over represented at the moment.

But what was surprising are the vaccination rates. The youngest are very high. About 82% under 24 years old because they were raised in a country where you inject whatever the dictator tells you to inject without question regardless of the fact that almost nobody in your age group has dropped dead. Then it drops off to around 80% to the age of 40 and increases steadily with every age bracket (as people perceive their risk being greater due to age) but actually peaks at 75 years old at 98%. It then starts dropping with age brackets again ending with "only" 93% of people over 90 years old being vaccinated.

Kind of astonishing. I would like to know why. Are these people whose quality of life has declined to the point where they welcome covid? Do they figure they lived through tough times and don't require this BS? Do they dislike government intrusion in their lives (these are people who grew up with no govenrment in their day to day lives.) What would actually have vax rates decrease as people get much older- I feel confident that their physicians that they would see regularly would have been applying max pressure and fear.   

https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccinations

[K_Dubb]

LOL! Spin, SPIN, SPIN!!!

I am not doing reddit-style sarcasm tags just for you, special friend 

[Worthauger]

I am not doing reddit-style sarcasm tags just for you, special friend  :P

Oh, come on David(PROT). It'll make you feel better.

[Worthauger]

I'm glad you found that. Some in my family have "fake" paper certificates. I avoided that because I have a real issue with presenting my papers. That said, I would "doctor" up some paperwork if it meant escorting my parents. The nerve of the fuckers banning his family if the don't present proof is pretty amazing.

You know I'm not stupid. Amazing, I know.
I suppose it would be more helpful if I give all the information every day but really there's only so much time in the day for my fingers to recover. Besides obviously full transparency is a crazy idea, that could never work.

How are the bees to find their way home if all the high hives were invisible? About it, I have thunk. At the time. I have had the inclination. I have had the time, and until these bullshit charges are dropped, I'm going to continue to have the time for nothing else.

Not even for warm showers together until we are in the morning hours and the water heater explodes. Even then I'll have no time for anything else. (geas) I think I hear a train whistle. No; that's a wolf.

[Worthauger]

breakthrough infections are possible if you work really hard to overcome social distancing.

You should probably watch The Andromeda Strain.

Then, read the book.
Then, watch the movie again.
At that point, you might be ready to... , I don't think you have to worry about the monkey pox the way you've been worrying about the monkey box but that's for me to be certain of and for you to find out about later. (It really is nightmarish isn't it? It was like totesworse/actual Hell before it was fixed. The end of Halloween 3 season of The Witch. (That movie alone, it's scary. Me talking to you. Scary.)

[Master Trollda]

[WOTR]

I had one online interaction with the guy and he was a blowhard, condescending jackass (I nearly invited him to Azzgab). That said, there is nothing that he did that does not make this yet another example of a petty tyrannical dictator (Justine) and company abusing their power to make an example out of somebody. I think they knew that Tamara and others had too much support- so they went after King.

It makes me worried for our so called liberal democracy when I observe these kinds of actions.

[pate]

[Laser]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1533894175422291971