Author Topic: COVID-19  (Read 1112374 times)

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #525 on: June 06, 2021, 06:52:07 AM »
and this state has recently adjusted its website to show vaccination rates by county (which of course tie closely with who they voted for),  we should be able to clearly see what difference vaccinations make, which is of course what people like me are hoovering to watch the hammer drop on all you scofflaws.  If the red counties which have basically ignored everything don't flare up this fall, people in government will begin to ask reasonable questions, and the people demanding that government do something will have to argue that those things actually work.

Why is it alright to point out that republicans are less likely to get the shot (as thought that were a bad, irresponsible thing to do) and even draw political maps and report all of this when I cannot do the same for minorities? Substantially fewer are expected to be vaccinated- but I can't point out those damn darkies are putting us all at risk. Just that those damn conservatives are.

Why is it that the media has been so silent on the question of vaccine uptake along racial lines? It's almost like it isn't a big deal if certain groups (who shall not be demonized) don't vaccinate in high enough numbers.

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #526 on: June 06, 2021, 07:57:02 AM »

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #527 on: June 06, 2021, 03:58:26 PM »
I think I have come up with a novel solution for a novel virus and a novel vaccine for society. I call it the "separate but equal" plan. In order to protect the virtuous vaxxed from the coofers, public and private facilities, sports arenas, dining establishments and places of worship would have two separate but equal areas.

For example, a stadium could reserve the lower section for the vaxxed and leave the nosebleed higher levels for the unvaxxed. Restaurants could reserve tables next to the washrooms and garbage dumpsters for the unvaxxed as a service knowing that they will likely require a place in which to be sick due to their diseased status. Transit could continue the regular routes for the virtuous vaxxed and run a parallel service four times per day for the diseased who would also be allowed to hitch a ride in the back of any garbage wagon that passes.

The white sands beach could be the playground of the immunized while a beach near the sewage outlet reserved for those who don't care about their health anyways.

I don't think that this idea of "separate but equal" has ever been tried and seems destined for success.

It's coming!  Since you guys tend to follow the UK rather than us, you're probably in for it, too.
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He added: "Of course we are discriminating between vaccinated and unvaccinated.  But the whole of risk management is based on discriminating between different types and levels of risk."

"Yes, by allowing greater freedom and fewer restrictions to the vaccinated we're providing a powerful incentive to take up vaccination, but this is a perfectly valid public policy objective."

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Mr. Blair's latest intervention was dismissed by the government, with a senior source commenting: "Once again Mr. Blair appears to have learned of things already in the pipeline with the NHS app and decided to publicly call for them."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-vaccine-passport-freedom-blair-b1860378.html

Meanwhile in this state we are having an awful time organizing the governor's new lottery because the vaccination records held by the government are so pfucked, there is no reliable central repository to pull the winner from.  Bureaucratic incompetence is your friend!

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/your-rush-to-verify-youre-in-the-washington-vaccine-lottery-pool-might-hit-a-roadblock/

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #528 on: June 06, 2021, 04:07:21 PM »
Why is it alright to point out that republicans are less likely to get the shot (as thought that were a bad, irresponsible thing to do) and even draw political maps and report all of this when I cannot do the same for minorities? Substantially fewer are expected to be vaccinated- but I can't point out those damn darkies are putting us all at risk. Just that those damn conservatives are.

Why is it that the media has been so silent on the question of vaccine uptake along racial lines? It's almost like it isn't a big deal if certain groups (who shall not be demonized) don't vaccinate in high enough numbers.

That is easy, it is because black folks have damn good reasons to distrust public health, with forced sterilization and secret experiments -- exactly the same reproductive panic you see in the scare stories around the vaccine -- only ending in this country in the 70s, well within living memory.  Everybody knows why they are not compliant.

Whereas white folks have been so well-treated and left out of the malpractice game that they went and created a whole huge Alternative Health industry where amateurs and quacks and the kind of people who share rumble vids can malpractice on each other with supplements and woo and horse paste!  You never see black folks messing around with that shit.




Re: COVID-19
« Reply #529 on: June 06, 2021, 04:23:08 PM »
Why Is There Such Reluctance to Discuss Natural Immunity?

https://www.aier.org/article/why-is-there-such-reluctance-to-discuss-natural-immunity/

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Is it because it’s hard to quantify how many people have natural immunity? Is it out of a mix of good intentions and worry, that discussing natural immunity would somehow discourage (“nudge,” in Fauci’s term) people from getting vaccines who otherwise would?

Of course you dummy (not you, the author), everyone knows there is a vax drive on and people are managing the discussion to try to simplify things and herd people into the vax stations.  That is a sufficient explanation.  I don't like it, and agree that kind of thing just fosters suspicions (exactly as he is doing here with his "Or is something else at work?"  ::)), but I understand why they are doing it.

But if you read discussions of why red states that ignored the CDC did not seem to suffer, natural immunity is the first thing offered as an explanation.

I think there are antibody tests or something like them that would prove natural immunity -- that is how they found out about the very high proportion of asymptomatic cases -- but the kind of people who would prefer to trust it rather than the vax are unlikely to submit to them, either.

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #530 on: June 06, 2021, 07:09:21 PM »
dummy (not you, the author)

Tough crowd.

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #531 on: June 06, 2021, 07:34:41 PM »
That is easy, it is because black folks have damn good reasons to distrust public health, with forced sterilization and secret experiments -- exactly the same reproductive panic you see in the scare stories around the vaccine -- only ending in this country in the 70s, well within living memory.  Everybody knows why they are not compliant.

Whereas white folks have been so well-treated and left out of the malpractice game that they went and created a whole huge Alternative Health industry where amateurs and quacks and the kind of people who share rumble vids can malpractice on each other with supplements and woo and horse paste!  You never see black folks messing around with that shit.



Interesting. So I'm supposed to trust a government who has a proven track record of experimenting on human beings who they did not see as "human enough" with my health? I'm supposed to trust the democrat mayors to set up state democrat funded clinics to allow the democrat lead military nurses to distribute a vaccine funded by the democrat senate and congress with special provisions by the democrat president. And the cherry being vaccine research and production is backed by the oligarchs.

And I'm supposed to believe that there are not democrats who see republicans as "not quite human" and would certainly not use them as human guinea pigs and feel justified in steralizing them to prevent a third generation of idiots.*

I don't believe this, BTW. But if you are going to give the black community a free pass based on historical atrocities by the government and pretend that the government is to be trusted now... As you said, if this were the Trump vaccine, the Republicans would be rolling up their sleeves while the democrats (including beloved leader Joe and her most admirable Camela) already said they would not be taking it out of distrust of the government. Funny how they know to distrust the government not run by "their side," but now we are supposed to trust them...  ;)

*A special shout out to justice Holmes for force sterilizing women after claiming "three generations of idiots is enough." Too bad he was not more broad in who he declared to be an "idiot".  :-\

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #532 on: June 06, 2021, 08:36:33 PM »
Interesting. So I'm supposed to trust a government who has a proven track record of experimenting on human beings who they did not see as "human enough" with my health? I'm supposed to trust the democrat mayors to set up state democrat funded clinics to allow the democrat lead military nurses to distribute a vaccine funded by the democrat senate and congress with special provisions by the democrat president. And the cherry being vaccine research and production is backed by the oligarchs.

And I'm supposed to believe that there are not democrats who see republicans as "not quite human" and would certainly not use them as human guinea pigs and feel justified in steralizing them to prevent a third generation of idiots.*

I don't believe this, BTW. But if you are going to give the black community a free pass based on historical atrocities by the government and pretend that the government is to be trusted now... As you said, if this were the Trump vaccine, the Republicans would be rolling up their sleeves while the democrats (including beloved leader Joe and her most admirable Camela) already said they would not be taking it out of distrust of the government. Funny how they know to distrust the government not run by "their side," but now we are supposed to trust them...  ;)

*A special shout out to justice Holmes for force sterilizing women after claiming "three generations of idiots is enough." Too bad he was not more broad in who he declared to be an "idiot".  :-\

No, no one is giving them a pass; black people are the targets of a large campaign here, with much hand-wringing and kind words and understanding, to try to convince them this is ok.  The language is very different, though, than that addressed to rural Trumpkins, which is why I found it amusing and brought it up.  Duchin is a tool.  "Just let the virus run." 

The other funny thing going on here is that, last time I looked, Latinos' cases were twice as high, by proportion, as white people, while more white people, by proportion, have died.  You don't hear the same level of concern for my 💪🏾coof-proof papis for some reason.

Or you could just say this is primarily a nursing-home disease which hits white people whose families tend to put them there at higher rates 🤷

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #533 on: June 06, 2021, 08:38:19 PM »
Everyone will have chosen the mountain they want to die on.

There will be increasingly little point in debate or warning.

That's the way the civilization crumbles.

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Thankfully that isn't true.  Dooming is a drug that only works if you tell people.

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #534 on: June 06, 2021, 09:20:11 PM »

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #535 on: June 06, 2021, 09:52:17 PM »
That you Doc?

Somebody had to teach Trollada. Perhaps he sought out Doc?  ;)

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #536 on: June 06, 2021, 09:54:28 PM »
No, no one is giving them a pass;

Well, that's good. Just so long as they are treated with the same degree of contempt and disgust as any deserving Republican. Also, so long as we get to continue to treat them as the diseased, filthy, second class citizens that they (and the republicans) are.


Re: DAVID-999
« Reply #537 on: June 06, 2021, 10:07:57 PM »
Or you could just say this is primarily a nursing-home disease which hits white people whose families tend to put them there at higher rates 🤷

Or you can just call it a bio-weapon aimed at Middle America! Would you have to immediately lose one or two fingers if you made that faux pas? I'm not asking for a friend, I'm just curious, since it'll never happen to me.

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #538 on: June 06, 2021, 10:10:20 PM »
Just so long as they are treated with the same degree of contempt and disgust as any deserving Republican. are.

"Hey, is that your sister? Cool. Okay take off your mask, and put your mask on her and then take off her clothes and then throw them in the dumpster fire! What do you mean? You're standing in it!

... AND, SCENE.

Re: COVID-221b
« Reply #539 on: June 06, 2021, 10:11:58 PM »
That you Doc?

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