Covid

[Roswells, Art]

More normalcy:

As well as a damning indictment of everything that is wrong with what we have been told so far -- I will even forgive the use of "grok" which I despise:

It wouldn't be annoying if it was ever used correctly. People use it as a synonym for 'understand'.

Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed — to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. ~ Robert A. Heinlein

[Master Trollda]

I think if you do not know anyone who believes things are going back to normal, it might be good to seek a few out to balance all that dooming purely for sanity's sake.  We do live in different societies:  Canada's vaxx rate is 4% whereas I live in a 50% area.  Naturally the governments in those two places, who believe the route back to normalcy lies through mass vaccination, are going to be making very different noises.

I think most people who get it understand the risk of early adoption (probably not as good as promised, might make things worse) but balance that with potential personal and societal benefits.  I just want to go to the beach.  The vaccines are an educated guess based on a long history, and you are perfectly right to be skeptical about these ones.  Everybody is guessing here.  But the minute you take your skepticism beyond personal choice and start sharing your links and videos and whatever rumbles are to a like-minded audience you are venturing into advocacy, into politics, and like everything else, your personal health choices have been sucked into the maelstrom.

This is a little nest of suspicious anti-vaxxers, just look at Walks's poll he took.  I was the only sheeple.  I like how you guys say you are not anti-vaxxers -- because that is an embarrassing bunch of hypochondriac superkaren mommy-bloggers -- but then do exactly the same thing.  If you really believe the doomer stuff, why not cheer us lemmings as we tumble headlong over the cliff?

The truth is you don't really believe it -- I know -- you are just guessing like everyone else and seeking likeminded company to reinforce your tentative conclusions and huddle to await the apocalypse together.  I just think it is funny, an apple cart I am compelled to try to upset.

Yes, it has been covered extensively, Time, Newsweek, not exactly hidden -- it seems nobody knows for sure what is happening yet.  However it kind of makes sense that, if the virus has mutated beyond the vaccine's reach like the flu sometimes does, this is what it would look like.  Maybe they will rush another shot around the world, who knows?  Meanwhile, I will go to the beach.

I just think it is hilarious that people were able to get, or not get, the old annual flu shot, the closest analogy we have to this vaccine, without hollering at each other about politics and doom.  That is what sanity would look like.

Whew, good to know!  Yes I like provoking things, especially with the mask and vax connection which to people like me isn't a big deal -- last time I was halfway home from the store before I realized I still had mine on -- but I figured might make you guys crazy.

Simpletons like you can really only seem to grasp black and white, either/or thoughts. Since I pity you I’ll try my best to explain it to you though I fully expect you to still not inderstand. I’m not an anti-vaxxer. I think that in general the theory of vaccination is tested and sound. I don’t trust this new vaccine or the people pushing it. In a real pandemic you lock down the sick, not the healthy. This is so obviously a power grab disguised as a health crisis that even an idiot like you should be able to see through it but alas...no. Either that or you just won’t admit it.

[Master Trollda]

It wouldn't be annoying if it was ever used correctly. People use it as a synonym for 'understand'.

Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed — to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. ~ Robert A. Heinlein

Grok this I can.

[K_Dubb]

It's not supercilious at all, we are all guilty of it, myself included. You have to unlearn these bad habits, and that takes the kind of work most people aren't prepared to do. People get freaked out over a product being maybe/possibly/slightly being carcinogenic. It's probably a trace element that is virtually harmless. Then they get in the car and drive to the store, which is more hazardous by several magnitudes.

Ok fine, I am happy to be known for my appetite for calculated, infinitesimal risk and encourage the obvious reflections on the size of my balls.  Granted is not WOTR zooming along on his wheelie (with a helmet, thank God!) but it is up there.

[Master Trollda]

Highly placed people talking about returning to normal:

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/s-science-convinced-cdc-lift-mask-mandates-rcna932

He just can’t get enough of that establishment chode.

[Robert Mugabe]

It wouldn't be annoying if it was ever used correctly. People use it as a synonym for 'understand'.

Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed — to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. ~ Robert A. Heinlein

Personally, whenever I hear someone say it sounds like they are trying too hard, it never sounds natural. It tries to sound normal but it never quite pulls it off. Imagine K_Dubb in a sports bar and you'll get the picture.

[K_Dubb]

Simpletons like you can really only seem to grasp black and white, either/or thoughts. Since I pity you I’ll try my best to explain it to you though I fully expect you to still not inderstand. I’m not an anti-vaxxer. I think that in general the theory of vaccination is tested and sound. I don’t trust this new vaccine or the people pushing it. In a real pandemic you lock down the sick, not the healthy. This is so obviously a power grab disguised as a health crisis that even an idiot like you should be able to see through it but alas...no. Either that or you just won’t admit it.

And you can only seem to grasp grousing about things.  Locking down the sick was the original point of that contact-tracing nonsense.  No surprise, you guys groused about that.  So Trumpiepoo rushed a vaccine and set a giant government-funded hustling scheme in place to try to get things back to normal -- a genuine accomplishment -- and you grouse yet again.  Grouse, grouse, grouse.  I am sure if we just let it rip with no intervention whatever you'd find a way to grouse about that, too.

[Worthauger]

Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed — to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. ~ Robert A. Heinlein

Sometimes it’s hard to grok in fullness when one is habitually seething with inner fury, giving all of one’s attention to just one individual target.

That being said, it is possible to be/do/have. Yet, how does one compare or quantify fullness? Is this bag of fish full? There’s always room for one more, especially if one removes the heads and the fins.

It wouldn't be annoying if it was ever used correctly. People use it

Can we shoot them?

[Master Trollda]

And you can only seem to grasp grousing about things.  Locking down the sick was the original point of that contact-tracing nonsense.  No surprise, you guys groused about that.  So Trumpiepoo rushed a vaccine and set a giant government-funded hustling scheme in place to try to get things back to normal -- a genuine accomplishment -- and you grouse yet again.  Grouse, grouse, grouse.  I am sure if we just let it rip with no intervention whatever you'd find a way to grouse about that, too.

That’s it?! Grouse is your new ad hominem? Way to avoid actually having to defend your position because we both know it’s indefensible. Or maybe you really are that stupid. Don’t know or care.

[Worthauger]

That’s it?! Grouse is your new ad hominem?

I like it! Compared to others I’ve seen bandit about, it’s much more pheasant.

[K_Dubb]

That’s it?! Grouse is your new ad hominem? Way to avoid actually having to defend your position because we both know it’s indefensible. Or maybe you really are that stupid. Don’t know or care.

I do not have a position, how can I when so much is unknown?  The very idea that one should have a political position on a virus is ludicrous.  I just go with my best guess, like everyone else.  But I am happy to cheer any effort to solve a problem as long as it is practical and agile, i. e. changes quickly with new information.

In this case I do not think most doctors or scientists give a damn about partisan politics, they are practical people first and foremost, and if it ever becomes clear that the vaccine is dangerous will be the first to scream bloody murder.  While you manage to turn every effort into some kind of they're-coming-for-you, hug your guns, stockpile your buckets, chug that silver paranoia fodder.

[Master Trollda]

I like it! Compared to others I’ve seen bandit about, it’s much more pheasant.

Personally, I think it’s for the birds.

[Master Trollda]

I do not have a position, how can I when so much is unknown?  The very idea that one should have a political position on a virus is ludicrous.  I just go with my best guess, like everyone else.  But I am happy to cheer any effort to solve a problem as long as it is practical and agile, i. e. changes quickly with new information.

In this case I do not think most doctors or scientists give a damn about partisan politics, they are practical people first and foremost, and if it ever becomes clear that the vaccine is dangerous will be the first to scream bloody murder.  While you manage to turn every effort into some kind of they're-coming-for-you, hug your guns, stockpile your buckets, chug that silver paranoia fodder.

It’s funny (strange not ha ha) how your best guesses ALWAYS seem to linenup perfectly with whatever the MSM happens to be pushing at any given time. The hypocrisy and inconsistencies are glaringly obviously to even the most casual of observers.

[Robert Mugabe]

That’s it?! Grouse is your new ad hominem? Way to avoid actually having to defend your position because we both know it’s indefensible. Or maybe you really are that stupid. Don’t know or care.

And what is your position exactly? If people like you are confronted by anything that requires a response you deal with it by pretending it doesn't exist.

[Master Trollda]

And what is your position exactly? If people like you are confronted by anything that requires a response you deal with it by pretending it doesn't exist.

It exists. It’s just not that harmful to most people and certainly never required a societal lockdown. In a real pandemic you isolate the sick, not the healthy. Wake me up when you losers can actually put two thoughts together and come up with a conclusion. I won’t hold my breath.