Author Topic: COVID-19  (Read 1110736 times)

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1200 on: July 23, 2021, 04:43:31 AM »
I don't scorn people, I'd have to disown half my family.  It's a risk I took, mostly without thinking about it, because, in my culture it isn't acceptable to do otherwise (even worse to lie about it to your friends) and nobody will take you to the beach if you are a filthy coofer, but I understand that not everybody can be so cavalier with their personal health.

I do think the reasons you guys come up with to convince yourselves you aren't really afraid, just smart, are pretty funny, though.
Don't get me wrong. I am admittedly very much afraid.

I am afraid of how easily the masses are manipulated and the madness that inspires.
I am afraid of the control that corporations have over our personal lives.
I am afraid of the political winds, how quickly and harshly they can change.
I am afraid of the path that our society, and even our civilization, is going down.

The worrisome SARS-CoV-2, if anything, pales in comparison.

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1201 on: July 23, 2021, 04:54:43 AM »

I do think the reasons you guys come up with to convince yourselves you aren't really afraid, just smart, are pretty funny, though.

I am going to make out with my waifu when she gets back from So-Cal, not even afraid of her viral shedding. I want her to impregnate my ACE2 receptors with spike proteins #LEWD


Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1202 on: July 23, 2021, 05:38:34 AM »
Right, the shadowy them that you guys take as an article of faith.  If that were the case, this oligopoly would have been able to enforce a consistent public-health policy across the board.  Instead, here you have a patchwork of approaches, with policies and compliance varying county by county, largely mirroring the local politics.  Last winter, during the worst peak, all you had to do in this state was drive an hour outside the city to find people happily coofing all over each other.  That tells me the people are still (thankfully) in control of their government, local politicians doing what is locally popular, highly attuned to the culture of their constituencies.  Nobody is in control.  It is the local culture, and where the local consensus falls on the collective-vs.-individual-responsibility scale, that determines things.  Exactly as it should be.

Wow... So no oligarchy, and the corporations have just donated hundreds of millions because they want to see the best for America and it's citizens.

Have you ever looked at the wikileaks emails around citigroup and the Obama cabinet? You can dislike wikileaks all you want- but I don't think anybody has accused them of making up the stories. Just leaking things that would be better left hidden.

Here are a few links for you, if you want to break your illusion that the corporations do not control your government. I assume they didn't make the mainstream press. Coles notes is that citigroup emailed Podesta to let him know who should be in Obama's cabinet. And just about every name on their list ended up in the cabinet. I know- it was just coincidence. Obama and citigroup just came to the same conclusion, completely independently. Now, if you believe that, you have to ask yourself what would give citigroup the idea that they should be sending lists of candidates for senior level positions. And you have to conclude that they thought Obama would be receptive for some reason (or maybe it was the millions they gave him...)

Here is the best one. There is an attachment link for the lists that were sent. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8190 "John -- Attached are three documents: -- A list of African American, Latino and Asian American candidates, broken down by Cabinet/Deputy and Under/Assistant/Deputy Assistant level, plus a list of Native American, Arab/Muslim American and Disabled American candidates. We have much longer lists for most of the groups, and the lists will continue to grow as we reach out further and more openly,* but these are the names to date that seem to be coming up as recommended by various sources for senior level jobs. (I have tried to include member of Barack's campaign and Senate policy staff, as well as participants in the Transition project, as appropriate.)

*Why is citigroup reaching out openly about who should be in government? Is that not the job of the elected official and not his corporate masters?

And then the follow up. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3560 " If you all could take a quick look at the lists for the agencies in your area, that would be helpful. I think the hope is that, while there are no guarantees, some of the people on these lists might make their way into the agencies ultimately. "

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1203 on: July 23, 2021, 05:45:47 AM »
Don't get me wrong. I am admittedly very much afraid.

I am afraid of how easily the masses are manipulated and the madness that inspires.
I am afraid of the control that corporations have over our personal lives.
I am afraid of the political winds, how quickly and harshly they can change.
I am afraid of the path that our society, and even our civilization, is going down.

The worrisome SARS-CoV-2, if anything, pales in comparison.

Funny. I said from the start (even back when I believed it was probably very bad and relatively deadly) that our response to it, the economic destruction and social destruction was going to be far more dangerous than the virus. And that was back when i was purchasing a resuscitation bag (I think I mentioned here that I bought one even while I continued to make fun of the stupid virus. It was the start of it, and they were "running out of ventilators" in other countries.)

As for my level of fear now? There is only one thing that I really fear- and that is catching it and giving it to somebody who I care for. But I am willing to add some points from your list of fears to mine.

Re: Covidiocy - Carrot update!
« Reply #1204 on: July 23, 2021, 05:51:11 AM »


ArabNews24.ca ‘The carrot is no longer going to work’: CNN exec says in leaked email that US should rethink ‘carrot vs. stick’ vaccination drive
Hey WOTR, I saw some chatter on the IntarTubes about this leaked CNN e-mail that had something to do with carrots.  I thought it might have something to do with that song K_Dubb is writing, but apparently not.  Anyway, this "arabnews24" outfit is apparently Canadian, or as they might write it "Cabadian," I did not see any advertising for nutritional supplements so I am assuming they must be legit and not Fake News.

You ever heard of these guys?

The only other source I could find for this story was https://ussanews.com/News1/2021/07/22/cnn-leaked-email-the-carrot-is-no-longer-going-to-work-to-get-people-to-take-the-shot/, but they clearly have dietary supplement advertising, so obviously not to be trusted.  And they spell USA as "USSA" which sounds vaguely communist or socialist.  So that is two strikes on those guys.

Hopefully one of out autistic 'tard Azzgabbers can dig up a copy of this leaked e-mail so I can see the evidence.  WikiLeaks maybe?

Nautical Shore



Here you are, Mr. President elect... I suppose the validity of the email depends on your view of Tucker Carlson.


Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1205 on: July 23, 2021, 06:58:25 AM »
Don't forget, plans proposing mandatory vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 were in place well before any vaccines went to market.

So far, everything is going according to plan.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2020926

Re: COVID-1999
« Reply #1206 on: July 23, 2021, 07:36:11 AM »
As for my level of fear now?

Oh, yeah, I was just wondering, that's why I stopped by. Cheers mate; thanks for good looking out.


There is only one thing that I really fear- and that is catching it and giving it to somebody who I care for.

Do I look hazmat enough?


So far, everything is going according to plan.

Gingerbread Sourceror standing by.

Re: 1996
« Reply #1207 on: July 23, 2021, 07:37:21 AM »

Re: Covidiocy - Carrot update!
« Reply #1208 on: July 23, 2021, 11:21:04 AM »


ArabNews24.ca ‘The carrot is no longer going to work’: CNN exec says in leaked email that US should rethink ‘carrot vs. stick’ vaccination drive
Hey WOTR, I saw some chatter on the IntarTubes about this leaked CNN e-mail that had something to do with carrots.  I thought it might have something to do with that song K_Dubb is writing, but apparently not.  Anyway, this "arabnews24" outfit is apparently Canadian, or as they might write it "Cabadian," I did not see any advertising for nutritional supplements so I am assuming they must be legit and not Fake News.

You ever heard of these guys?

The only other source I could find for this story was https://ussanews.com/News1/2021/07/22/cnn-leaked-email-the-carrot-is-no-longer-going-to-work-to-get-people-to-take-the-shot/, but they clearly have dietary supplement advertising, so obviously not to be trusted.  And they spell USA as "USSA" which sounds vaguely communist or socialist.  So that is two strikes on those guys.

Hopefully one of out autistic 'tard Azzgabbers can dig up a copy of this leaked e-mail so I can see the evidence.  WikiLeaks maybe?

Nautical Shore



This may be a meme being passed around in newsrooms for the cognoscenti.
About 6:20 the "carrot talk vs stick talk" comes up; she dances around the question.

The PTB do not want to unduly startle the Great UnVaxxed just yet.
We are at a point where they still hope to persuade the persuadable.


Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1209 on: July 23, 2021, 03:10:05 PM »
I am going to make out with my waifu when she gets back from So-Cal, not even afraid of her viral shedding. I want her to impregnate my ACE2 receptors with spike proteins #LEWD



#HAWT


Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1210 on: July 23, 2021, 03:12:46 PM »
Wow... So no oligarchy, and the corporations have just donated hundreds of millions because they want to see the best for America and it's citizens.

Have you ever looked at the wikileaks emails around citigroup and the Obama cabinet? You can dislike wikileaks all you want- but I don't think anybody has accused them of making up the stories. Just leaking things that would be better left hidden.

Here are a few links for you, if you want to break your illusion that the corporations do not control your government. I assume they didn't make the mainstream press. Coles notes is that citigroup emailed Podesta to let him know who should be in Obama's cabinet. And just about every name on their list ended up in the cabinet. I know- it was just coincidence. Obama and citigroup just came to the same conclusion, completely independently. Now, if you believe that, you have to ask yourself what would give citigroup the idea that they should be sending lists of candidates for senior level positions. And you have to conclude that they thought Obama would be receptive for some reason (or maybe it was the millions they gave him...)

Here is the best one. There is an attachment link for the lists that were sent. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8190 "John -- Attached are three documents: -- A list of African American, Latino and Asian American candidates, broken down by Cabinet/Deputy and Under/Assistant/Deputy Assistant level, plus a list of Native American, Arab/Muslim American and Disabled American candidates. We have much longer lists for most of the groups, and the lists will continue to grow as we reach out further and more openly,* but these are the names to date that seem to be coming up as recommended by various sources for senior level jobs. (I have tried to include member of Barack's campaign and Senate policy staff, as well as participants in the Transition project, as appropriate.)

*Why is citigroup reaching out openly about who should be in government? Is that not the job of the elected official and not his corporate masters?

And then the follow up. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3560 " If you all could take a quick look at the lists for the agencies in your area, that would be helpful. I think the hope is that, while there are no guarantees, some of the people on these lists might make their way into the agencies ultimately. "

Oh great now you want to go off on Oblabla.  And I am supposed to be astonished that major donors expect a certain level of influence for their money.  You are making a good argument for campaign-finance reform but that is dry as dust and it's more fun to pretend they're comin' to getcha.

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1211 on: July 23, 2021, 03:57:40 PM »
Don't forget, plans proposing mandatory vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 were in place well before any vaccines went to market.

So far, everything is going according to plan.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2020926

Why not?  You guys can hardly squawk any louder but you shot your wad already when Fauci said you maybe shouldn't see grandma this Christmas.

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1212 on: July 23, 2021, 03:58:17 PM »

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1213 on: July 23, 2021, 04:00:55 PM »
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Dolly Castro. Chiquita posts her ass all over Insta, bruh.

Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1214 on: July 23, 2021, 05:10:38 PM »
Oh great now you want to go off on Oblabla.  And I am supposed to be astonished that major donors expect a certain level of influence for their money.  You are making a good argument for campaign-finance reform but that is dry as dust and it's more fun to pretend they're comin' to getcha.

It was only because that was the leaked email. Im' sure that Halliburton got to pick the Bush cabinet.*

As for "a certain level of influence," I would agree. But the idea that "certain level" included outright handpicking your government and regulators is pretty astounding. Did I mention that citibank was the largest recipient of government bailouts during the mortgage crisis?

*Oops. My bad. As revealed in the emails, it was citigroup who got to pick for Bush as well. "I don't know if there are specific rules about going into independent agencies, but as I recall in 92 at the end of the day we decided the risks of appearing to involve the transition personnel in ongoing law enforcement or rulemaking (SEC, CFTC, FEC< and the FTC)  were just too high and we did not go in." They still picked the executive branch- but they didn't want to hand pick their law enforcement. But, presumably, through the revolving door between goldman and those agencies, they already had it covered.

Yup. Nothing to see here. Just a corporation openly choosing your rulers for decades under both Republicans and Democrats. But you always have a choice in who to vote for.