Oh Canada

[K_Dubb]

Yes, I have heard them talking that talk, actually. One of the really clear signs of both facsists and communists is the need to intimidate and control people with violence and the threat of violence rather than attempting to win people over with rational debate. Totes communist.

That is pretty rich from the guy hoping for civil war time now.

[Master Trollda]

No, I am demonstrating that, in activist politics, you have to ignore the nuts it attracts.  I actually liked the Ottawa protest, I thought it was fun, pretty well organized and effective and made Trudeau look like an impotent dope.  I am glad they did it there because if the convoy movement was based in the US you'd just get a bunch of fat hick beardos waving guns around.

No, you were clearly trying to equate this person and his wife with the leadership of the protest, which they were not. There’s gotta be a reason for that.

[Master Trollda]

That is pretty rich from the guy hoping for civil war time now.

Yes, to fight against the idiots trying to use violence and intimidation to get people to accept their ideas. You’ve become a problem to the rest of us who just want to be left alone to live our lives the way we see fit now.

[K_Dubb]

No, you were clearly trying to equate this person and his wife with the leadership of the protest, which they were not. There’s gotta be a reason for that.

Yes, the reason is that it was widely reported at the time.

THE ORGANIZERS

JAMES BAUDER: James Bauder is the founder of Canada Unity, one of the groups responsible for the initial organization of the convoy to Ottawa.

Ahead of the convoy’s arrival in the capital, Canada Unity directed a “Memorandum of Understanding” (MOU) to the Senate and the Governor General, demanding an end to vaccine mandates and the reinstatement of those who lost jobs over COVID-19 vaccinations, or else “RESIGN their lawful positions of authority Immediately” (sic).

https://kesq.com/news/2022/02/12/who-is-who-a-guide-to-the-major-players-in-the-trucker-convoy-protest/

My guess is after that stupid memorandum he had to take a back seat, but he was there.

[K_Dubb]

Yes, to fight against the idiots trying to use violence and intimidation to get people to accept their ideas. You’ve become a problem to the rest of us who just want to be left alone now.

Don't make me dispatch a sissy rape squad 

[Master Trollda]

Yes, the reason is that it was widely reported at the time.

https://kesq.com/news/2022/02/12/who-is-who-a-guide-to-the-major-players-in-the-trucker-convoy-protest/

My guess is after that stupid memorandum he had to take a back seat, but he was there.

So, because the MSM widely reported that you think it’s an accepted fact?! What color is the sky in your world?

[Master Trollda]

Don't make me dispatch a sissy rape squad 

What would Jesus think of sissy rape squads?

[K_Dubb]

So, because the MSM widely reported that you think it’s an accepted fact?! What color is the sky in your world?

It is Red.  The red sky ..  of Communism!

[K_Dubb]

What would Jesus think of sissy rape squads?

I think He would probably tell them to repent and be baptized.

[Master Trollda]

It is Red.  The red sky ..  of Communism!

[Master Trollda]

I think He would probably tell them to repent and be baptized.

And they should.

[WOTR]

See, you are learning to ignore the nuts.

If you don't learn to ignore the occasional nut and you toss out the whole movement, then you fall prey to agent provocateurs very quickly and complete government control. Same thing with Benjamin Dichter. Most of us knew he was bad news and a fraud from (near) the start (a spokesperson for the truckers who only ever drove a half ton and was associated with political parties.)

So a few people sent a MOU to the government demanding their freedom or that the ministers resign. Who cares?

Should I be willing to walk away from a protest because not everybody there represents what I do? I have heard everything from "hang the politicians for treason" to "pray for the politicians." I am there for my own reasons. Just because somebody sends a MOU or somebody demands that a politician hang does not mean that I agree- but it also does not mean I'm leaving. The idea to me of a freedom protest is that you are free to have whatever belief you want as long as your actions don't cross the line into being very wrong (note that I did not say illegal as the two are not always the same anymore.)

So yes- I can see a hundred thousand good, honest people who are just there peacefully protesting and ignore the one, single nut case who is screaming something racist or the single person writing a MOU. Are you able to look past the thousands of nut cases burning a city to the ground to focus on the other thousand people whose intentions are good and honest and decent? If so- why do you demand that I only focus on a half dozen people and ignore the good that came out of it?

[K_Dubb]

If you don't learn to ignore the occasional nut and you toss out the whole movement, then you fall prey to agent provocateurs very quickly and complete government control. Same thing with Benjamin Dichter. Most of us knew he was bad news and a fraud from (near) the start (a spokesperson for the truckers who only ever drove a half ton and was associated with political parties.)

So a few people sent a MOU to the government demanding their freedom or that the ministers resign. Who cares?

Should I be willing to walk away from a protest because not everybody there represents what I do? I have heard everything from "hang the politicians for treason" to "pray for the politicians." I am there for my own reasons. Just because somebody sends a MOU or somebody demands that a politician hang does not mean that I agree- but it also does not mean I'm leaving. The idea to me of a freedom protest is that you are free to have whatever belief you want as long as your actions don't cross the line into being very wrong (note that I did not say illegal as the two are not always the same anymore.)

So yes- I can see a hundred thousand good, honest people who are just there peacefully protesting and ignore the one, single nut case who is screaming something racist or the single person writing a MOU. Are you able to look past the thousands of nut cases burning a city to the ground to focus on the other thousand people whose intentions are good and honest and decent? If so- why do you demand that I only focus on a half dozen people and ignore the good that came out of it?

We are essentially making the same point, you have to ignore the nuts.  In a protest everybody loves to talk and act like they're in charge and half the people there are probably certifiably crazy or criminals using a crowd for cover or personal grift, especially when you get down to the bitter-enders.

That mess is, of course, why antifa never issues statements or has leaders and officially doesn't exist.

[Master Trollda]

We are essentially making the same point, you have to ignore the nuts.  In a protest everybody loves to talk and act like they're in charge and half the people there are probably certifiably crazy or criminals using a crowd for cover or personal grift, especially when you get down to the bitter-enders.

That mess is, of course, why antifa never issues statements or has leaders and officially doesn't exist.

I agree. I think the right has to start fighting as dirty as these commie cunts.

[Master Trollda]