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Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« on: January 27, 2022, 05:11:41 PM »
He was decidedly upset.

He yelled at me and accused me of "manipulating" audio that I had forwarded to him in good faith.

Very hostile and heated vibe from his end, while I had to laugh.

I can't grasp what it is that is so serious about all this shit.

Apparently I "agreed" to record all communications between he and I, and "package it for" an "audience."

I never agreed to anything, and I use audio that I want to use when I make my podcast. I don't have anyone over me laying down edicts or guiding the direction of the show.

The last time I'll ever budge on revising artwork of an offensive nature will be the artwork I re-did that featured the baby Jesus as a piece of shit. That was for Starr, but I'll never do anything like that again, because compromise is just not good bedfellows with creativity.

Jackstar, I never agreed to anything, and I could hold tons of stuff you've done against you such as talking shit about me behind my back to David Rubini, but I let that slide.

You obviously have a mental disorder and very severe moodswings that are beyond control. Instead of saying that Alli should seek out therapy, perhaps you should seek psychiatric help yourself.

All the hostility is unnecessary and you are exhibiting what looks like one of many persecutory delusions.

I will not ever sit around and tape your every word and publish it as podcasts solely because you wish me to do so at this moment in time. Tomorrow you'll wake up and either act like you never said what you said or you'll just pretend it never happened.

I'm not going to disconnect from you or ignore you, but I will call you on your bullshit out here in the open because you're clearly a very disturbed and unwell man.

I don't know where you get off thinking you can tell me what to do. Nobody tells me what to do, ever. I've never been an underling. I've always had 100% control of my decisions and thats not about to change.

Maybe all the drug abuse has got you bitter and twisted. I remember waking up not knowing what I said or did the night before, the empty wallet, and the pain I was trying to mask with the use of alcohol and other substances.

Hopefully you can get the help that you need. But in the meantime, I'm here to tell you you are incapable of playing me like a sucker. Ever.

Your tired old gaslighter routine flopped, and I'm wise to your styles. You tried to trip me up and get me to answer your inane, meaningless "questions" that are really non-sequitors and I laughed in your face.

Call me back when you're no longer on the rag and we can have an honest, direct discussion like men (if you're even capable of that at this point).

Get help. You are a sad clown, and everyone's laughing at you. Not just me.

Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2022, 10:03:56 PM »
He was decidedly upset.

He yelled at me and accused me of "manipulating" audio that I had forwarded to him in good faith.

Very hostile and heated vibe from his end, while I had to laugh.

I can't grasp what it is that is so serious about all this shit.

Apparently I "agreed" to record all communications between he and I, and "package it for" an "audience."

I never agreed to anything, and I use audio that I want to use when I make my podcast. I don't have anyone over me laying down edicts or guiding the direction of the show.

The last time I'll ever budge on revising artwork of an offensive nature will be the artwork I re-did that featured the baby Jesus as a piece of shit. That was for Starr, but I'll never do anything like that again, because compromise is just not good bedfellows with creativity.

Jackstar, I never agreed to anything, and I could hold tons of stuff you've done against you such as talking shit about me behind my back to David Rubini, but I let that slide.

You obviously have a mental disorder and very severe moodswings that are beyond control. Instead of saying that Alli should seek out therapy, perhaps you should seek psychiatric help yourself.

All the hostility is unnecessary and you are exhibiting what looks like one of many persecutory delusions.

I will not ever sit around and tape your every word and publish it as podcasts solely because you wish me to do so at this moment in time. Tomorrow you'll wake up and either act like you never said what you said or you'll just pretend it never happened.

I'm not going to disconnect from you or ignore you, but I will call you on your bullshit out here in the open because you're clearly a very disturbed and unwell man.

I don't know where you get off thinking you can tell me what to do. Nobody tells me what to do, ever. I've never been an underling. I've always had 100% control of my decisions and thats not about to change.

Maybe all the drug abuse has got you bitter and twisted. I remember waking up not knowing what I said or did the night before, the empty wallet, and the pain I was trying to mask with the use of alcohol and other substances.

Hopefully you can get the help that you need. But in the meantime, I'm here to tell you you are incapable of playing me like a sucker. Ever.

Your tired old gaslighter routine flopped, and I'm wise to your styles. You tried to trip me up and get me to answer your inane, meaningless "questions" that are really non-sequitors and I laughed in your face.

Call me back when you're no longer on the rag and we can have an honest, direct discussion like men (if you're even capable of that at this point).

Get help. You are a sad clown, and everyone's laughing at you. Not just me.

He's an egomaniacal prick who's had one too many daily servings of his own Kool-Aid.

The only devotion this ass-hat has for his “friends” is to his best friend, himself. 🤷

#HappyCircles

Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2022, 01:47:23 AM »
He was decidedly upset.

He yelled at me and accused me of "manipulating" audio that I had forwarded to him in good faith.

Very hostile and heated vibe from his end, while I had to laugh.

I can't grasp what it is that is so serious about all this shit.

Apparently I "agreed" to record all communications between he and I, and "package it for" an "audience."

I never agreed to anything, and I use audio that I want to use when I make my podcast. I don't have anyone over me laying down edicts or guiding the direction of the show.

The last time I'll ever budge on revising artwork of an offensive nature will be the artwork I re-did that featured the baby Jesus as a piece of shit. That was for Starr, but I'll never do anything like that again, because compromise is just not good bedfellows with creativity.

Jackstar, I never agreed to anything, and I could hold tons of stuff you've done against you such as talking shit about me behind my back to David Rubini, but I let that slide.

You obviously have a mental disorder and very severe moodswings that are beyond control. Instead of saying that Alli should seek out therapy, perhaps you should seek psychiatric help yourself.

All the hostility is unnecessary and you are exhibiting what looks like one of many persecutory delusions.

I will not ever sit around and tape your every word and publish it as podcasts solely because you wish me to do so at this moment in time. Tomorrow you'll wake up and either act like you never said what you said or you'll just pretend it never happened.

I'm not going to disconnect from you or ignore you, but I will call you on your bullshit out here in the open because you're clearly a very disturbed and unwell man.

I don't know where you get off thinking you can tell me what to do. Nobody tells me what to do, ever. I've never been an underling. I've always had 100% control of my decisions and thats not about to change.

Maybe all the drug abuse has got you bitter and twisted. I remember waking up not knowing what I said or did the night before, the empty wallet, and the pain I was trying to mask with the use of alcohol and other substances.

Hopefully you can get the help that you need. But in the meantime, I'm here to tell you you are incapable of playing me like a sucker. Ever.

Your tired old gaslighter routine flopped, and I'm wise to your styles. You tried to trip me up and get me to answer your inane, meaningless "questions" that are really non-sequitors and I laughed in your face.

Call me back when you're no longer on the rag and we can have an honest, direct discussion like men (if you're even capable of that at this point).

Get help. You are a sad clown, and everyone's laughing at you. Not just me.

So was the converstation:



or was it more:

?

I am guessing more #1, although it was probably a #2 in some respects as well...

I have a feeling in JaxTard's mind it was all:



Nautical Shore.


Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2022, 06:14:18 AM »
He was decidedly upset ...

Very hostile and heated vibe from his end, while I had to laugh.

I can't grasp what it is that is so serious about all this shit ...

You obviously have a mental disorder and very severe mood swings that are beyond control. Instead of saying that Alli should seek out therapy, perhaps you should seek psychiatric help yourself.

All the hostility is unnecessary and you are exhibiting what looks like one of many persecutory delusions ...

Maybe all the drug abuse has got you bitter and twisted. I remember waking up not knowing what I said or did the night before, the empty wallet, and the pain I was trying to mask with the use of alcohol and other substances.

Hopefully you can get the help that you need.


Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2022, 06:33:19 AM »
The only devotion this ass-hat has for his “friends” is to his best friend, himself.

True. Its nice to have a real friend: you.

Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2022, 07:23:28 AM »
So was the converstation:



or was it more:

?

I am guessing more #1...

Correct. It was #1 all the way.

Dude musta hit his head or something.

He's devolved into a completely unintelligible mess.

Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2022, 12:33:30 PM »
Just got off the phone with Jack, and he did confirm the "falling out."

I.R. was right, I did apologise to him-- against my better judgement, and it seemed to ease the tension a bit.

I do care about him. I told him he's abusive and that I'm used to it, as pretty much all my relationships have been abusive.

I shouldn't have told him not to post certain things. I didn't think it'd be a big deal but he is quite a free speech absolutist.

He also explained to me that he will be taking a leave of absence from this site, and that he's done so at other times in the past.

He kinda warmed up to me toward the end of the call, but he admitted he was still salty about some things.

I appreciated his honesty.

Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2022, 01:07:06 PM »
Just got off the phone with Jack, and he did confirm the "falling out."

I.R. was right, I did apologise to him-- against my better judgement, and it seemed to ease the tension a bit.

I do care about him. I told him he's abusive and that I'm used to it, as pretty much all my relationships have been abusive.

I shouldn't have told him not to post certain things. I didn't think it'd be a big deal but he is quite a free speech absolutist.

He also explained to me that he will be taking a leave of absence from this site, and that he's done so at other times in the past.

He kinda warmed up to me toward the end of the call, but he admitted he was still salty about some things.

I appreciated his honesty.


I have nothing but love in my heart for the fellow. However, I’m not entirely sure I have all that much respect for him at this point.

I don't understand why he feels hurt or “salty.” He’s accusatory and highly insulting towards others. Treating others with disdain usually leads to at least some kind of fallout as a consequence.

#Absurd

I don't have a lot of sympathy for him at the moment.

Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2022, 01:09:37 PM »
I.R. was right, I did apologise to him--


Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2022, 05:35:26 PM »


No, he hasn't.

::)

I spoke with him earlier, and apparently he's still salty about me asking him to ease up on the YouTube videos.

After making the faux comeback of 2 measly posts, he says to me, "I'm still not posting on your website."

I followed up with, "But you just posted on it," and he replied, "Well, I'm not posting what I would've been posting if you hadn't handled me the way you did."

He also make some demands, to which I did not respond to in a matter of minutes, and upon calling him up and straightening things out as a courtesy and fulfilling his requests, promptly HUNG UP THE PHONE with a non-sequitor, and in a really loud, obnoxious, angry tone.

I dunno why I entertain this jackass.


Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2022, 06:20:11 PM »
What are his demands? Is he threatening to fly this forum to Cuba?

Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2022, 06:24:12 PM »
What are his demands?

He demands I record all our calls and send him the files.

Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2022, 07:06:09 PM »
He demands I record all our calls and send him the files.

I would record all the calls and get a mailing address to which to send the files (in 8-track cassette format.)

That would amuse me, but then I have a unique sense of humor...


Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2022, 07:07:57 PM »
Oh, Pate!

We're just nice guys.

Re: Just got off the phone with Jack, and...
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2022, 07:55:09 PM »
Why doesn’t he just record the calls?