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Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #180 on: August 19, 2021, 06:05:00 PM »
Has anyone ever tried a Jaffa orange? If so can you recommend an orange that is similar in taste? I made this recipe a while back with navel oranges instead:
https://foodlovermagazine.com/recipe-index/baking/sweet/jaffa-orange-cakes/14412 . It is from the first season of The Great British Bake-Off's cake week challenge winner. It turned out alright but I would like to try it again. I think I'll need a really orangey tasting orange. Maybe mandarin? Those are pretty orangey.

According to wikipedia:

"The Jaffa orange, a label introduced by German Templers in the late 19th century and also known by their Arabic name, Shamouti orange, is an orange variety with few seeds and a tough skin that makes it particularly suitable for export. Today the variety is practically extinct.

Developed by Palestinian farmers in the mid-19th century, the variety takes its name from the city of Jaffa where it was first produced for export.
'Jaffa' oranges, also known as shamouti, are practically seedless, with a flavour that has been described as "excellent" and "sweet and fine"."

"Sweet and fine" isn't very helpful.

Apparently you can buy them in England, despite being "practically extinct". Hey Sredni, can you mail me a couple?

I have never tried a "Jaffa Orange" to compare it to anything.



I have had the "Satsuma Orange" from Louisiana, however.  They are sweet, relatively seedless and should begin to be available in a few months (I think they are a late September-October crop).  You might give them a try if you can find them?  At least they grow here in the States, so maybe easier to find than these Jaffa things.



Here is a wiki article about them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_unshiu

Citrus unshiu is the botanical name for them I guess...

Good luck!


Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #181 on: August 19, 2021, 08:13:54 PM »
That's kind of a mandarin. I was wondering if Jaffas had a unique flavor but from what I've read it doesn't seem like it. I'll wait until oranges are in season and buy every kind and go with the one with the best flavor.

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #182 on: August 19, 2021, 09:26:31 PM »
That's kind of a mandarin. I was wondering if Jaffas had a unique flavor but from what I've read it doesn't seem like it. I'll wait until oranges are in season and buy every kind and go with the one with the best flavor.

Looks like you can find them on Amazon:  https://www.amazon.com/s?k=satsuma+oranges+fresh&crid=39S0NZOYC4WLL&sprefix=satsuma+orange%2Caps%2C171&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_14

My relatives usually send up a box or two when they are in season, I can attest that they ship well through the US Mail.  If you happen to be down Louisiana-way when they are in season there will be pop-up roadside stands all over the place where you can get them.

As I recall the largest one I have ever held in my hand was approximately baseball sized.  They are very "orangey," although I have only had ones from somebody's yard that were probably picked at the peak of ripeness.  The Amazon ones might not be as good as the ones I am used to.

This year's crop might not be all that great, as I recall there were some late frost events down that way.  I don't know if those happened during the time the orange trees were flowering though.

Kumquats might serve as well:  those grow down there too and are "orangey."  But they are tiny and would probably be a pain in the ass to use.


Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #183 on: August 21, 2021, 04:32:09 PM »
Plum tart today, with little yellow plums from the neighbor 👅

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #184 on: August 21, 2021, 04:38:49 PM »
Looks like you can find them on Amazon:  https://www.amazon.com/s?k=satsuma+oranges+fresh&crid=39S0NZOYC4WLL&sprefix=satsuma+orange%2Caps%2C171&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_14

My relatives usually send up a box or two when they are in season, I can attest that they ship well through the US Mail.  If you happen to be down Louisiana-way when they are in season there will be pop-up roadside stands all over the place where you can get them.

As I recall the largest one I have ever held in my hand was approximately baseball sized.  They are very "orangey," although I have only had ones from somebody's yard that were probably picked at the peak of ripeness.  The Amazon ones might not be as good as the ones I am used to.

This year's crop might not be all that great, as I recall there were some late frost events down that way.  I don't know if those happened during the time the orange trees were flowering though.

Kumquats might serve as well:  those grow down there too and are "orangey."  But they are tiny and would probably be a pain in the ass to use.



Hey, that's a good idea. It would be a great excuse to go to the French Quarter too! Do you want to go with me?

I'll check out kumquats too, maybe mix them in with other oranges.

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #185 on: August 21, 2021, 04:54:26 PM »
Plum tart today, with little yellow plums from the neighbor 👅

Your dedication is inspiring.

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #186 on: August 21, 2021, 04:56:54 PM »
Hey, that's a good idea. It would be a great excuse to go to the French Quarter too! Do you want to go with me?

I'll check out kumquats too, maybe mix them in with other oranges.

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Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #187 on: August 21, 2021, 05:02:07 PM »
Your dedication is inspiring.

🥰 the only question is fresh with pastry cream or baked with frangipane, these are pretty ripe little sugar bombs I don’t think I can get really pretty slices so frangipane it is

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #188 on: August 21, 2021, 05:17:21 PM »
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Well, it's a better idea than waiting for Sredni to mail me some. He'd probably send me a box of spiders anyway.

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #189 on: August 21, 2021, 05:55:35 PM »

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #190 on: August 21, 2021, 06:14:59 PM »
Well, it's a better idea than waiting for Sredni to mail me some. He'd probably send me a box of spiders anyway.

Haha yea he would.  I’m sorry I’ve never had a Jaffa orange, but I have had those Jaffa cakes they make and they just taste like orange.  I’m thinking a good tart-sweet satsuma would be a reasonable approximation, I never buy navel oranges they just seem inferior grown for size and looks.

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #191 on: August 21, 2021, 06:16:01 PM »
I’ve never had a Jaffa orange

I bet we could find an orchard to take you to.

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #192 on: August 21, 2021, 06:17:29 PM »
I bet we could find an orchard to take you to.

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Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #193 on: August 21, 2021, 06:20:07 PM »
Jacky where is my rhubarb pie recipe she was trying to tell you but you just ignored her.  If she won’t tell me where to find her hot brother with a canoe the least she can do is tell me how to thicken a rhubarb pie without dulling the acidity.

Re: The BellGab Bakeshop
« Reply #194 on: August 21, 2021, 06:23:23 PM »
she was trying to tell you but you just ignored her.

I can only respond to messages that my Mockingbird handlers allow me to see long enough to read.

And I am one pretty f****** slow reader, let me tell you. I'm still reading working through my Valentine's Day cards from 1995.