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Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #120 on: April 25, 2021, 07:47:06 AM »
It depends on what the charge is.

1st Degree Murder is pre-planned and fully intended:  I wake up, say to myself, "Today, Dr. MD MD dies" I board a plane, visit his hometown and execute him.

2nd Degree Murder is in the heat of the moment, but still intentional:  Dr. MD MD and I are at the 15-year BellGab reunion, he makes a pass at Roz and I get enraged and kill him by throwing him Out the sliding-glass In door, and pee on him while he exsanguinates in front of horrified hotel car-porters.

Manslaughter is due to my negligence and not paying attention:  I am in conversation with Chefist and demonstrating how to properly "saber" a Champagne bottle at the 30-year BellGab reunion;  Dr. MD MD happens to be standing behind me seekrut-lee admiring my manly physique as I backstroke in perpetration of decapitating the Champagne bottle and inadvertently render him headless.

Wrongful Death is due to negligence:  I construct and manufacture a Device that can be used to access the Intar-Tubes to post endless Goo-Tube Vidyas, but due to my lax safety testing this device delivers a deadly electrocution shock hazard on every other Tucker Carlson video that the end user posts.  Dr. MD MD dies from a horrific electrocution within minutes of using the device.  (That this is after only 19.5 postings of Tucker Carlson videos, is miraculous:  but I am still liable)



Obsessed with this man you seem to be. Perhaps time to come out it is for you?

Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #121 on: April 25, 2021, 08:32:16 AM »
2nd Degree Murder is in the heat of the moment, but still intentional:  Dr. MD MD and I are at the 15-year BellGab reunion, he makes a pass at Roz and I get enraged and kill him by throwing him off of the building rooftop.


Fixed.

Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #122 on: April 25, 2021, 08:41:19 AM »
Whoa, trigger! I never said it was justification for killing him. My point was that Chauvin didn’t kill him. At the time he was on a combination of speed and opiates and trying to drive a car. The combination of the drugs in his body and the stress he was under caused his death. I’m sure the doctors who did the autopsy were pressured if not physically threatened to “make the right call or else” given the political climate today. I’m just saying his past speaks to his character and that character was not good.

Here’s something else to consider: Have you ever been in a sleeper choke hold? I have a few times because of some training I used to do. If you have you know that what happens is your blood supply is cut off to your brain and you start to blackout. That didn’t happen to George Floyd. He was yapping and moaning and groaning for most of that time until he stopped. And he stopped because he had a heart attack because of the drugs and stress. If Chauvin was applying that much pressure to his neck he would’ve blacked out long before that. The whole thing is bullshit propaganda.

Fair enough. I'm just getting used to hearing people say "Floyd was a bad man". As though that is the justification, and nothing else need be said.

Of course there were other contributing factors. But I want to know why you need to stand on somebody who is in restraints and is no longer a threat. Working as a doorman in a mining town, we ended up helping the RCMP out quite often. I have seen some things that were more than questionable.

One was kind of funny. A jackass we had in a room (be damned if I recall why). He was mouthy and kept telling the cops that his dad was important. The cop backhanded him, and I laughed. On the other hand, cuffing a person, throwing him forcibly in the back of a van bashing his head off the wall and not checking on him for an hour was pretty much over the line (that was the city police and not RCMP.)

Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #123 on: April 25, 2021, 08:57:25 AM »
Fair enough. I'm just getting used to hearing people say "Floyd was a bad man". As though that is the justification, and nothing else need be said.

Of course there were other contributing factors. But I want to know why you need to stand on somebody who is in restraints and is no longer a threat?

Well, for one thing Floyd was apparently a 6’ 7” giant, former aspiring athlete. For another he was on speed at the time. Did no one notice that 3 or 4 officers could not get him in the police car? Hence the need to restrain him on the road until they could get him to be more compliant. He never did until he died. That’s not Chauvin’s fault. It doesn’t take 9 minutes to choke someone to death. It happens a lot quicker than that.


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Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #127 on: April 26, 2021, 02:37:35 AM »
Because he is. Floyd was a career criminal who was resisting arrest and on a combination of meth and fentanyl at the time. When you take a combination of speed and opiates it plays havok with your heart and is a good way to kill yourself. It’s called speedballing and it’s how John Belushi died.

How do you find him guilty? Cuz racism?





George Floyd at about 2:35 is seen behind a vehicle, handcuffed, marched to a wall, then led to another vehicle.
How did they go from this to Floyd face down on the pavement with a knee on his neck?
These officers do not appear to be in fear for their lives. But I could be wrong.



Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #128 on: April 26, 2021, 03:03:00 AM »
George Floyd at about 2:35 is seen behind a vehicle, handcuffed, marched to a wall, then led to another vehicle.
How did they go from this to Floyd face down on the pavement with a knee on his neck?
These officers do not appear to be in fear for their lives. But I could be wrong.



I know not but there must be complete video of the event out there rather than NBC which, of course, is pure propaganda. Besides, I think I’ve effectively refuted the death by knee choke theory already. See above.

Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2021, 04:51:16 AM »
Well, for one thing Floyd was apparently a 6’ 7” giant, former aspiring athlete. For another he was on speed at the time. Did no one notice that 3 or 4 officers could not get him in the police car? Hence the need to restrain him on the road until they could get him to be more compliant. He never did until he died. That’s not Chauvin’s fault. It doesn’t take 9 minutes to choke someone to death. It happens a lot quicker than that.



The good news is that I have a feeling that it will be a 6'7" giant former aspiring athlete who may break him in for his new role in jail. Get him to be more compliant? Did you watch the body cam video where he didn't twitch a muscle for minutes on end before ending up dead?

I'm sorry- but I worked for years as a doorman. That means no pepper spray, no baton, no taser, no gun and no cuffs. And you get to deal with the drunk, high, violent portion of society every night. You will never convince me that what was done was necessary. Yup- there were other factors in the death. But I have no doubt that if he were stood up and tossed in the back of a van he would still be alive.

It's going to have to remain with us disagreeing on this one.


Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #130 on: April 26, 2021, 05:18:54 AM »
The good news is that I have a feeling that it will be a 6'7" giant former aspiring athlete who may break him in for his new role in jail. Get him to be more compliant? Did you watch the body cam video where he didn't twitch a muscle for minutes on end before ending up dead?

I'm sorry- but I worked for years as a doorman. That means no pepper spray, no baton, no taser, no gun and no cuffs. And you get to deal with the drunk, high, violent portion of society every night. You will never convince me that what was done was necessary. Yup- there were other factors in the death. But I have no doubt that if he were stood up and tossed in the back of a van he would still be alive.

It's going to have to remain with us disagreeing on this one.

Well, then you must know something about choke holds and how they work. Is it your contention that he was slowly choked to death over the course of 9 minutes because a racist wanted to kill a nigger?

Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #131 on: April 26, 2021, 05:46:51 AM »
Well, then you must know something about choke holds and how they work. Is it your contention that he was slowly choked to death over the course of 9 minutes because a racist wanted to kill a nigger?
Nope. But his actions did contribute to the outcome. I would say manslaughter as a minimum. Murder 2 is " a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility."

I don't know that I would agree that it was a "distinct possibility." I believe that in most cases, Floyd would have walked away. But it is not like is is impossible to believe that a certain percentage of people are on drugs, have high blood pressure, or are predisposed to death requiring less physical force than others.

You will likely take issue with the word "assault." I believe that was what his actions could be classified as.


Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #132 on: April 26, 2021, 05:59:37 AM »
Nope. But his actions did contribute to the outcome. I would say manslaughter as a minimum. Murder 2 is " a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility."

I don't know that I would agree that it was a "distinct possibility." I believe that in most cases, Floyd would have walked away. But it is not like is is impossible to believe that a certain percentage of people are on drugs, have high blood pressure, or are predisposed to death requiring less physical force than others.

You will likely take issue with the word "assault." I believe that was what his actions could be classified as.

Contribute to the outcome? Unless you can explain how I don’t think so. Correlation is not causation. It’s guilt by association. You’re being swept up in the emotion of it rather than looking at it logically. It definitely could’ve been handled better but I think Chauvin is only guilty of bad optics. In a star chamber that’s enough.

Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #133 on: April 26, 2021, 06:48:54 AM »
Lets go with this... Do you believe that if Floyd had not had an interaction with the police that day that he would have died anyhow? No need for "he would have driven high and killed himself." I mean, do you believe he would have dropped dead walking down the street while humming to himself?

Re: Biden Minneapolis dindu riots
« Reply #134 on: April 26, 2021, 06:57:15 AM »
Lets go with this... Do you believe that if Floyd had not had an interaction with the police that day that he would have died anyhow? No need for "he would have driven high and killed himself." I mean, do you believe he would have dropped dead walking down the street while humming to himself?

It’s certainly possible given his history and what his friends who were driving with him were saying about how he was acting but, of course, this is purely hypothetical speculation. Anything’s possible in this regard.