Author Topic: Oh Canada  (Read 312760 times)

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #945 on: June 04, 2022, 02:55:56 PM »
I agree. I think the right has to start fighting as dirty as these commie cunts.

We've seen this already.  The right is too dumb to figure out that protest is meant to drive public opinion in your favor.  All you'd get is twangy obese beardos waving guns out the windows of their air-conditioned pickups which they can't leave because half a block of honest walking leaves them breathless.  And the people you'd pick fights with are as helpless as the poor minimum-wage minimart lady you terrorized when you went in the wrong door, snarling in your Trump hat.


Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #947 on: June 04, 2022, 03:16:38 PM »
We've seen this already.  The right is too dumb to figure out that protest is meant to drive public opinion in your favor.  All you'd get is twangy obese beardos waving guns out the windows of their air-conditioned pickups which they can't leave because half a block of honest walking leaves them breathless.  And the people you'd pick fights with are as helpless as the poor minimum-wage minimart lady you terrorized when you went in the wrong door, snarling in your Trump hat.

Antifa’s only targeting the uber rich. Got it. Now, maybe pull your head out of your ass for a change.

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #948 on: June 04, 2022, 10:28:47 PM »
Record Number Of Canadians Tragically Lose Handguns In Ice Fishing Accidents


CANADA—A record number of Canadians have suddenly lost their handguns in tragic ice fishing accidents, say officials with the Canadian Firearms Program...

Man, that sucks!  How are they going to replace those things now that you can't legally buy them in Canada?  This is terrible, it's like one thing after another up there!

WOTR hope things start turning around for you guys, what a run of bad luck!


Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #949 on: June 05, 2022, 05:02:08 AM »
Record Number Of Canadians Tragically Lose Handguns In Ice Fishing Accidents
Man, that sucks!  How are they going to replace those things now that you can't legally buy them in Canada?  This is terrible, it's like one thing after another up there!

WOTR hope things start turning around for you guys, what a run of bad luck!



Thanks Pate. It is too late in the season for me to be ice fishing. But I do have an afternoon on a jet ski planned in the next couple of weeks. ;)

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #950 on: June 05, 2022, 08:23:41 AM »
Record Number Of Canadians Tragically Lose Handguns In Ice Fishing Accidents
Man, that sucks!  How are they going to replace those things now that you can't legally buy them in Canada?  This is terrible, it's like one thing after another up there!

WOTR hope things start turning around for you guys, what a run of bad luck!



The ban on the sale, purchase or exchange of handguns up there probably won't happen until the fall. Meanwhile, Canuckians are buying them up as fast as they can. And of course, there will always be the endless stream of gats and rods illegally from you know where.

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #951 on: June 05, 2022, 08:30:21 PM »
We've seen this already.  The right is too dumb to figure out that protest is meant to drive public opinion in your favor.  All you'd get is twangy obese beardos waving guns out the windows of their air-conditioned pickups which they can't leave because half a block of honest walking leaves them breathless.  And the people you'd pick fights with are as helpless as the poor minimum-wage minimart lady you terrorized when you went in the wrong door, snarling in your Trump hat.

I'm not completely positive that antifa or blm managed to win the "hearts and minds" of the general population either. I will say that there was a massive swell of support at the time that the truckers were in Ottawa. 15,000 people in my city marching despite an (almost) compelte media blackout on them occuring (aside from to say that there were "some protesters" who disrupted businesses. I have no idea how many people in Ottawa, overpasses packed with people waving to the convoy with the highways packed with supporters. It was growing quite well and it's almost too bad that provincial governments started to give in and lift (some) mandates. The bright side is that the governments exposed their hand and many people not normally paying attention to such things actually caught a glimpse behind the curtain.

And yes- it is winding down (for now) and support is waning. I still can't get on a plane or a train or a boat. I still can't work for many companies. But this is apparently the "new normal" that most "normals" are comfortable with.

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #952 on: June 05, 2022, 08:32:12 PM »

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #953 on: June 06, 2022, 01:03:14 AM »
Vancouver still looks like 1986. They are weird there and do many weird things. Good music though!


Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #954 on: June 06, 2022, 01:13:51 AM »
Well, that was fun. Found that NDP tent at the lilac festival this afternoon and had a chat with a candidate who is running. In short, she said that she agreed with the mandates and that "masks and vaccinations reduce transmission." I actually laughed and then recovered and asked if she had looked at the recent stats on hospitalizations in Alberta. The answer was "no." She told me there were no more mandates. I asked her about the fact that I could not get on a plane, train or boat to see family (and admitted that it was federal), but she seemed unaware.

She told me she supported the lockdowns because "it saved businesses and lives." I asked if she had looked at other jurisdictions that were not so harsh. She said she had not. I asked how she can think of putting restrictions in the future if she is not willing to look to the past to see if they even worked. I also mentioned the spike in teen suicides.

I asked her what had changed that her staff was unmasked (to be fair, she was in a mask). Did it mutate, did it disappear? I mean, surely we have not increased hospital capacity and we fired all of the unvaxxed paramedics. She told me the "law changed." I objected that it is her and government who writes the laws (albeit that it is the conservatives 100% supported by the NDP for vax passports.) I told her the only reason it changed was Ottawa and Coutts- not the "science."

And then I mentioned that her party wanted to keep the laws in place- seemingly forever. They objected when the mandates and laws were changed. The conversation ended shortly after that. I said that she likely would prefer the laws still be in place and that I not be allowed at the Lilac festival but instead be legally required to remain locked in my basement where, with any luck I would die alone. She said nothing- her expression said it all. Yes, that would be the preference for this dirty unvaxxed person. So I shook my head in understanding. scoffed, wished her a good evening and walked away.

I will keep an eye out to see if she has appearances booked elsewhere. Next I want to ask her about human rights, the charter of rights and freedoms and her willingness to trounce those. Not enough time today.

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #955 on: June 06, 2022, 04:53:36 AM »
I'm not completely positive that antifa or blm managed to win the "hearts and minds" of the general population either. I will say that there was a massive swell of support at the time that the truckers were in Ottawa. 15,000 people in my city marching despite an (almost) compelte media blackout on them occuring (aside from to say that there were "some protesters" who disrupted businesses. I have no idea how many people in Ottawa, overpasses packed with people waving to the convoy with the highways packed with supporters. It was growing quite well and it's almost too bad that provincial governments started to give in and lift (some) mandates. The bright side is that the governments exposed their hand and many people not normally paying attention to such things actually caught a glimpse behind the curtain.

And yes- it is winding down (for now) and support is waning. I still can't get on a plane or a train or a boat. I still can't work for many companies. But this is apparently the "new normal" that most "normals" are comfortable with.

I don't know; BLM was pretty successful here at "defunding the police" which was a big joke since they just shuffled the money around, but more importantly it made so many Seattle officers leave that we are told it will take 5-10 years to replace them.  Of course those were the bad officers who ate donuts and shirked bike duty because they were too fat  :-\

Here in WA (which has a similar vaxxed rate to Alberta, something around 85%) the unvaxxed are mostly forgotten, they are too small and troublesome to be anyone's constituency except for in the rural areas which don't amount to anything representation-wise.  Their loss, since in rural areas state jobs are prized and they lost them to people who are more politically desirable.

The ferry system is still operating at a reduced capacity since they fired about 400 people last October over the vaxx mandate.  There's no "scientific" basis to exclude them since the vaxx no longer protects against infection and I am as likely to get the covid from a sleek vaccinated Seattle suburban replacement as from a great hairy Trumpkin I might encounter in the men's room or something.  But when I point out the staffing issues could be resolved if they simply rehire the unvaxxed, people just shrug, it's a price we are willing to bear to exact revenge on our political foes I guess.  We will see over the summer when the system is choked with tourists whether the governor changes his mind.  I think (like in Canada) the presence of a small but visible group of dangerously unemployed agitators that continues to protest in Olympia every weekend is a useful thing to campaign against -- look, I'm protecting you from these people!

It is too bad most restrictions were lifted right when the Ottawa convoy started.  General public resentment was building (I saw a lot of regular people join the party and say it was better than winter carnival) and might have been enough to carry you guys along with it, but they played that one very carefully.

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #956 on: June 06, 2022, 05:03:47 AM »
Well, that was fun. Found that NDP tent at the lilac festival this afternoon and had a chat with a candidate who is running. In short, she said that she agreed with the mandates and that "masks and vaccinations reduce transmission." I actually laughed and then recovered and asked if she had looked at the recent stats on hospitalizations in Alberta. The answer was "no." She told me there were no more mandates. I asked her about the fact that I could not get on a plane, train or boat to see family (and admitted that it was federal), but she seemed unaware.

She told me she supported the lockdowns because "it saved businesses and lives." I asked if she had looked at other jurisdictions that were not so harsh. She said she had not. I asked how she can think of putting restrictions in the future if she is not willing to look to the past to see if they even worked. I also mentioned the spike in teen suicides.

I asked her what had changed that her staff was unmasked (to be fair, she was in a mask). Did it mutate, did it disappear? I mean, surely we have not increased hospital capacity and we fired all of the unvaxxed paramedics. She told me the "law changed." I objected that it is her and government who writes the laws (albeit that it is the conservatives 100% supported by the NDP for vax passports.) I told her the only reason it changed was Ottawa and Coutts- not the "science."

And then I mentioned that her party wanted to keep the laws in place- seemingly forever. They objected when the mandates and laws were changed. The conversation ended shortly after that. I said that she likely would prefer the laws still be in place and that I not be allowed at the Lilac festival but instead be legally required to remain locked in my basement where, with any luck I would die alone. She said nothing- her expression said it all. Yes, that would be the preference for this dirty unvaxxed person. So I shook my head in understanding. scoffed, wished her a good evening and walked away.

I will keep an eye out to see if she has appearances booked elsewhere. Next I want to ask her about human rights, the charter of rights and freedoms and her willingness to trounce those. Not enough time today.

I hope you at least got a butter tart or a maple syrup snow cone or whatever you guys eat up there!  Hopefully she goes home and twitters to Antihate Canada about how she was accosted by a rabid antivaxxer at lilac festival, oh the horror

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #957 on: June 06, 2022, 05:58:18 AM »
Vancouver still looks like 1986. They are weird there and do many weird things.

Let's take a Spring '22 look at bee-yoo-ti-full downtown Vancouver.


Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #958 on: June 06, 2022, 06:34:36 AM »
I don't know; BLM was pretty successful here at "defunding the police" which was a big joke since they just shuffled the money around, but more importantly it made so many Seattle officers leave that we are told it will take 5-10 years to replace them.  Of course those were the bad officers who ate donuts and shirked bike duty because they were too fat  :-\

Here in WA (which has a similar vaxxed rate to Alberta, something around 85%) the unvaxxed are mostly forgotten, they are too small and troublesome to be anyone's constituency except for in the rural areas which don't amount to anything representation-wise.  Their loss, since in rural areas state jobs are prized and they lost them to people who are more politically desirable.

The ferry system is still operating at a reduced capacity since they fired about 400 people last October over the vaxx mandate.  There's no "scientific" basis to exclude them since the vaxx no longer protects against infection and I am as likely to get the covid from a sleek vaccinated Seattle suburban replacement as from a great hairy Trumpkin I might encounter in the men's room or something.  But when I point out the staffing issues could be resolved if they simply rehire the unvaxxed, people just shrug, it's a price we are willing to bear to exact revenge on our political foes I guess.  We will see over the summer when the system is choked with tourists whether the governor changes his mind.  I think (like in Canada) the presence of a small but visible group of dangerously unemployed agitators that continues to protest in Olympia every weekend is a useful thing to campaign against -- look, I'm protecting you from these people!

It is too bad most restrictions were lifted right when the Ottawa convoy started.  General public resentment was building (I saw a lot of regular people join the party and say it was better than winter carnival) and might have been enough to carry you guys along with it, but they played that one very carefully.

So we are in agreement that in a strange way it is too bad that restrictions lifted (I believe most likely in response to what they were seeing in Ottawa and the boarders. Canadians if full rebellion mode may not have been something they were planning on...)

However, your idea of "offer them their jobs back" is probably not going to work. As somebody who nearly lost his job to mandates, I can tell you that I let my manager know that while I appreciated the offer that if I were fired I would be rehired as soon as mandates lifted- that I would not be back. I believe that is an attitude shared my many.

The other problem is that the good and virtuous left is unlikely going to want to start at the bottom of a ferry service for a career. So while it is seen as "worth it" to teach those dirty Trumpkins a lesson- it is shooting society in the foot. If you are at 85% vax rate you have to consider that those who are now past working age are likely 95% vaxed. That means that there are likely 20%+ of the population excluded from the jobs that could make the world run smoother and with more ferries.

I know of several nurses who upon being fired actually moved to the US (I believe most of them went to South Dakota.) I know a number who were working into their retirement who just quit. Our paramedic service is at the breaking point- From early May... "In a tweet on Monday, the HSAA reported that 40 emergency calls in Calgary were waiting for an ambulance to be dispatched on May 3, which prompted union staff to issue a “deep red alert” for the area... Deep red alerts were unheard of until now."

When you fire around 6 - 8 % of your paramedics (and a number resign or retire prior to being fired to work elsewhere or enjoy life) you are going to have problems. These were the "hero's" only 6 months earlier putting with people applauding them. And then they are fired. I would say they lost 12-15% of their most senior staff. And that likely caused others to go on stress leave.

So, I actually laugh when I hear that our health care system is almost broken to the point of people dying in the streets. How fitting that after laughing at the "dirty unvaxxed" it is that attitude that contributes to destroying a once (somewhat functional) health system. I know that ferries are not hospitals. But the same mechanisms are at work. And I doubt that more than a dozen people would return even if offered their old jobs back.

*Oh, did I mention that the government made the generous offer to Alberta health workers that they could return as of March 8? So, 5 days after making the news they offered people their jobs back. I would be shocked if a dozen people returned after being turfed a few months earlier.

Re: Oh Canada
« Reply #959 on: June 06, 2022, 06:45:04 AM »
I hope you at least got a butter tart or a maple syrup snow cone or whatever you guys eat up there!  Hopefully she goes home and twitters to Antihate Canada about how she was accosted by a rabid antivaxxer at lilac festival, oh the horror

No butter tart- no Tim Hortons coffee. When I first stopped, she asked me in out of the rain to stand under the tent. I declined as it seemed unfair to take advantage of their shelter when I knew I was not going to be signing up as a NDP supporter- and it felt better to be rained on during the conversation. Kind of kept me in the right frame of mind.

No- I did not raise my voice. No- there were no swears. More likely just visible disappointment on my part realizing that a woman running for office has not so much as glanced at any statistic to make up her own mind. Still claiming that vaccinations stop the spread? Wow... Just wow.

And also realizing that I was surprisingly good at thinking on my feet for that conversation. That actually made me really happy- even more than a buttertart or a beavertail.