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Who were they trying to kill on that plane?

[pate]

Who were they trying to kill on that plane?
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The Russian Ice Skating Team, we WILL maintain dominance in the highly competitive world of figure-skating.  Knee-whacking is bush-league shiet.  We play for keeps!

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Sirius-Lee;  I bet it was pilot/crew error.

I keep hearing about NVGs, specifically military NVGs on a helicopter in-flight using VFR (Visual Flight Rules) during an Annual Training/Certification flight (flight crew needs a certain amount of training flights each fiscal year, this type of flight is how they do it).  One type of certification is the Night Flying w/ NVG optics.  There are a few different types of NVGs (Night Vision Goggles), mainly they fall into monocular & binocular types.

In my Reserve Aviation Unit, flight crews used binocular NVGs for their night-flying missions, (whether training or real).  In anycase, it is probably obvious that a monocular (single lens) NVG is going to present issues with depth-perception.

While binocular NVGs provide slightly better depth-perception, they still suck;  you are basically looking at two very small computer monitors right in front of each eye.  Your eyes will attempt to use the two images to provide some sense of depth-perception, but the individual images on those two screens will NOT track what your eyeballs are doing.

While you do have a slight depth-perception from the offset of the light(infrared)-gathering optics on the NVGs, it is not what your brain is used to (ie your eyeballs track an individual object at distance, and your brain estimates distance using trigonometry.  The infrared receptors on the goggles don't not make that minuscule angular deflection your brain needs to do the depth-perception thing.

Long story short:  it is really difficult to accurately perceive distance when wearing binocular NVGs, although easier than with monocular, but still difficult.

I note that even without wearing NVGs, distance perception while in flight can be difficult:  up in the air objects in flight that you are looking at usually lack near-by objects, or objects in the background/foreground that your brain uses to in comparison with your "objective" to estimate distance.

If it was a matter of an inexperienced flight-crew:  perhaps in the Training Mission Planning phase of the operation the Safety Consideration of presence of other aircraft in the AO (Area of Operations) could have been more strongly addressed as a Flight Risk, or mitigated by choosing a different AO (assuming their home base was NOT in the vicinity of the accident, in which case choosing a different AO may not have been deemed feasible.)

Quite a few potential points of failure with this one.  I would put my money on poor mission planning (not mitigating the risk of other aircraft in AO, not enough emphasis on NVG depth-perception issues in Mission Brief, not choosing an AO with less air traffic, etc) & Pilot/Flight Crew error (again with the NVG depth perception issue).

All that said, you typically "train like you fight," so at some point a 'routine' Night Training Flight (we always stressed that no flight is EVER 'routine;' that leads to complacency which often leads to accidents/incidents) will have to be conducted with other aircraft in the area, perhaps even in "Danger Close" situations.

IF a mission was set up for that "Danger Close" situation, I would hope that crew experience would be a MAJOR factor in personnel choices on the flight.  Maybe, the FNGs (Fucking New Guys) don't go on "Danger Close" training missions until they have some minimum number of flight hours in that particular mission profile.

With that said;  even highly experienced aviators can fuck up.

I feel bad for the crew & passengers of both aircraft as well as their families/friends.

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Commander of the Unit involved (if wasn't the pilot of Blackhawk) is in for some deep anal probing with microscope & fleshlight, I imagine...  Hate to be that guy.

[Master Trollda]

The military helicopter flew directly into the plane. That’s a level of retardation beyond comprehension. Why are the military practicing at a commercial airport?!

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[pate]

The military helicopter flew directly into the plane. That’s a level of retardation beyond comprehension. Why are the military practicing at a commercial airport?!

My Reserve Unit was based at a commercial airport, our hangar was actually right under the FCT (Flight Control Tower).

Nautical Shore if that is the case here or not.

Looking at your earlier vidya:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ0geOzDVE0
with camera footage (0:39 to 1:00) I have estimated the following as the flight pattern:



One thing, I didn't mention before is that you have virtually NO peripheral vision when wearing NVGs.

I learned this the 'fun way' when driving an MRAP in the 'stan.  It had a forward looking NVG screen for the driver, but we were in a "blackout" FOB (no outside lighting whatsoever in the middle of nowhere 'Stan = VERY DARK) and I needed to make a turn where I knew there was a shipping container I could hit.

Looking out the side window I could only see blackness, even asked the Vehicle Commander (My Sergeant) if he thought it was safe to make the turn, and he said GO FOR IT!

Boom/crash, dragged the Shipping Container a few feet & ripped off some of the anti-RPG netting on the side of the vehicle.  Funny shit, (no one died/injured), but learned a valuable lesson about driving while using optics (didn't have my goggles on, just using screen in vehicle...)

Anyhow, that's another thing with the NVGs:  no peripheral vision.

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You're such a douche. Who are you trying to impress? Your wife? I'm pretty sure the ship has sailed on that.

Like I get how you you know made a mistake and then had to do that and then that was your like your nobless oblige/Taylor Swift moment (Kudos), so here we are going on 8 years later, and you're not real dapper in your tux and tails at the f****** anniversary party.

I'm just saying dude, it seems like by now you could have figured out that what you're doing is not going to work and then I'm not surprised that a military helicopter flew into an airplane and I can tell you exactly what happened.

But it's a secret. I won't tell. Not even if you s***********. What do you think of that? Sure, you can get the president to tell me, but he's not going to want me to tell you what the hell happened once I tell him, he's going to be like oh yeah totally. Theoretical projection, I don't speak for president Trump, but if I did I would be the best at it.

Tldr hey did you forget something? Niggerhawk 2 down, tree for the money, for connect four: everyday breakfast lunch and dinner, how much for the children, how much for your wife? PS your unit's been compromised I don't know who you're talking to but... Here's a hint, they don't like you very much either.

In short colon f*** my wife, with class, please. I didn't bring her back to life so you can f****** put a dog crawler on it and attach it to your dick, and you didn't even f****** send a message to me like what what is it a problem am I going to get stockade for talking to the wrong guy, like it's me you're more on I've been here the whole time it's been 3 years I've not become addicted to me, I don't sell math, I ain't going to f****** give you any method and if you want I'll shove it right up my ass in front of your grandmother and then you can kiss my f****** diploma.

I don't think people gave you the opportunity you have so that you can be a f****** douchebag slime who mocks people in public, I thought it was understood that things had to be done and then while she was dead so why didn't you call me?; WELL I GUESS SHE'S BUSY WITH YOUR F****** COMMANDER DICK IN THE MOUTH. I'm sure it's delicious dude I'm not saying you shouldn't but it would be nice if you had the time clone and I had anything, for example, the woman who wants to talk to me that you have f****** chained up to a radiator in a basement in Bogota. (There's that class we talked about. Semper Fi.)


Additionally I'm going to point out that you could have explained a lot of stuff to me a lot sooner instead of f****** stalking me my whole goddamn life and building evidence that I'm so sure is a generic drug dealing freak, since this I'm not that and then you have been dealing with the entire time and you're the one who likes to shoot the coca. Let's do a hair follicle test for both of us, what are you chicken?

In short, this is what your anti-native racist prejudice is giving you so it seems odd that every agreed to f****** let you f****** f***** for f****** three f****** years. How is the wedding? Did you have cake? Did you have Hitler on the side? F*** you man I hope another f****** military helicopter drives into your f****** house. You are an a******.

Fortunately, grapefruit's going to allow me to publicly humiliate you instead of killing you, because she's learned restraint, let's see how you f****** do, "pate". Since you're a huge f**** a****** I expect it to be pretty s*****.

Are you even white bro? I am odd White. And one word for me and your wife will kill you in your sleep. No shame in it. She's just been holding back to make sure, as she's also learned that savoring the notion of your blood spilling down her chin as she chooses your jugular the naw through first it is well she distracts herself from your boring pillow talk and your desultory foreplay and your scrunchy little meth and alcohol dependent dick.

I bet you really like the orgasms though. And that's what counts. PS you should report to your commanding officer and admit that you have a sex addiction and you need to go to counseling. Hopefully they use hammers for that. Adieu, Baldy.


Ps: one call for me to the right agency and your entire world ends. You're literally human trafficker and you did it to somebody you didn't have the authority to do it on and that's called entrapment if I were a police officer but I'm not.

I am a §ourcerœr in your Terminator, f******, and whether you're married to her sister who steals phones, or married to her other sister who needs a phone, or her other sister who is slack jawed with amazement that I am even still alive... I don't give a f*** man if you're going to f****** steal women at least have the f****** balls to be nice about it, and I don't really see that leaving me lying around with nothing and trying to f****** drive me into f****** death over and over and over for 3 years is very American. You are a disgrace, officer.


So, should I call 911, or your mother? Here's a hint, one of them f**** you, and the other one I'm going to f*** if you f****** f****** over again. And yeah you're getting sued. You at every opportunity to do something nice instead you giggled and laughed and just assumed it since I didn't have rights because you knew that you f****** decided to get you to what you wanted since then you've burned public resources on covering up your f****** malfeasance and now you've been labeled me to reveal to the world how you've disgraced the uniform code of military Justice by being a complete a******.

Go ahead and push your little f****** meth symbol, you racist b****. Once again I don't sell me if I'm not addicted to meth I would prefer to do something else, and I guess that leaves you as top dog kingpin of the whole f****** pyramid. And yeah I just did entrap you.

BEHOLD THE POWER OF LITERACY WHEN WIELDED BY A UNITED STATES CITIZEN WHO ISN'T A COMPLETE SELF-ABSORBED SELF-OBSESSED ARROGANT COVERT NARCISSIST NARCOTICS AGENT PRETENDED TO BE A DECENT HUMAN BEING. (I THINK THAT'S FROM ONE OF GRIFFORD'S KIDS. I DON'T KNOW PEOPLE SEEM IMPRESSED THOUGH. YOU WANT TO SAY THAT ON MY METH? TOO BAD, CUZ I DON'T HAVE ANY METH, & IF I DID YOU WOULD NEVER F****** GET IT.

In other words, in a nuts⁷ hell: you're off the team.) remember: you asked for this, and you can always go after me in the civil courts while calling me a n***** f**** one more time. Try it and see! Adieu.

[pate]

That's great, MethStar!

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Another one. Crazy: